The difference God makes

This showed up in my Facebook feed the other day. It’s a sentiment I’ve seen atheists express many times before. And I’ve always had a problem with it.

In one, very specific and very limited way, the sentiment is true. On the surface, an atheist not believing in any God is very much like a theist believing only in one particular God and, therefore, disbelieving or lacking belief in any other God. As a Christian and not, say, a Hindu, I don’t go around actively disbelieving in Krishna or any of the other Gods of Hinduism. Krishna and friends simply play no role in my life at all. I could spend the rest of my life never even thinking about them and I would be fine and nothing about my life would change in any way. Similarly, the argument goes, an atheist is someone for whom that’s the case in relation to all Gods. The atheist’s relationship to Yahweh is the same as the Christian’s to Krishna.

Krishna isn’t important to you, the atheist asks? That’s how I feel about all Gods.

Get it?

Yes, I guess I do. But let’s go deeper than the surface for a minute. Once there, we’ll see that the easy comparison between my Christian lack of belief in Krishna and your atheist lack of belief in any deity of any kind is fundamentally mistaken and misleading.

Now, I’ve never been a Hindu nor do I plan to become one any time soon, but ignoring some rather significant differences between the two religions, those who believe in God(s), whether Christian or Hindu, occupy one kind of universe. Those who do not believe in God(s) occupy a completely different one.

There’s a fundamental difference between a universe that owes it origin, continued existence and ultimate destiny to God, and one that is godless. Whether one believes in this God or that (or believes in this God and lacks belief in that), the godly universe is qualitatively different to the godless one.

Philosopher and pastor Jeff Cook says it much more eloquently than me in his new and utterly excellent Everything New. Describing his own loss of belief in God and subsequent retrieval of that belief, he says:

[W]hen I surrendered God-belief, a new thing happened.

I quickly found that saying “I don’t believe in God” was not like saying “I don’t believe in unicorns or pixie dust.” I discovered that when I said, “There is no God,” I was making a claim about everything else.

When I believed in God, the world around me had purpose. It had been carefully orchestrated and it moved forward toward a goal. Stepping away from God meant an end to all that. In leaving God aside, a new vision of the world emerged. Everything, both around and within me, became mechanical, unthinking, and often chaotic. (Kindle location 185)

He goes on to describe a kind of atheist dark night of the soul, as he gradually realises the utter bleakness of the new godless universe in which he resides. Vividly describing just how the “universal acid” of atheism strips away everything meaningful and valuable about life, he says:

As I read it, this was the story the physical sciences told us, and it seemed clear to me that nothing I did would produce for me either a life of freedom or lasting significance. On the face of it, everything I cared about eventually reduced to chaos.

My journey back to belief in God began here. (297)

The pastor in him comes out here as he holds a kind of cosmic altar call.

I consistently hit this spot where I had to recognize that the only hope for myself, my wife, my sons, my friends, or my culture to escape the ramifications of death and bondage to the chemicals within us was help – help from something immaterial, help from something separate from the blind, degenerating natural order. After the sciences have had their say and painted clearly our origin and our bio-chemical makeup, the overwhelming conclusion I hit over and again was that I required rescue. What other option is there? Yet the only thing that can rescue me is a supernatural being with both the ability to rescue me, and the desire.

And that sounded like a God to me. (297-311)

In a sense, yes, I am an atheist in relation to all other Gods except the triune one. I don’t believe in them. I lack belief in them. But though the step from believing in one God to believing in none may seem small to those mathematically inclined, perhaps, the distance crossed couldn’t be vaster.

  • schinizel

    So what if someone finds a way to infuse the universe with purpose & meaning without the notion of “God”?

    This just seems a way push the issue to a matter of preference, where you would either decide to invest the time, energy and cognitive dissonance in reconciling a lack of purpose with the universe or reconcile a lack of God with the universe.

    • http://www.arnizachariassen.com/ithinkibelieve Arni Zachariassen

      I’d like to see that. I’m sure it can be done, though I haven’t seen it and doubt it can be done quite as satisfactorily as Christianity has managed. But that is, as you say, probably just a matter of preference. Do you know an example of successful infusion of the universe with purpose and meaning, but without God?

      • schinizel

        It sure is more convenient to follow a path that has been laid out for us in sacred texts & traditions. Christianity has had time on it’s side, many minds & cultures have worked to shape it to it’s current form, and so it has an advantage at answering this question.

        Perhaps having the answer isn’t the point. Rather, it’s making the choice to pursue an answer. Therein lies the rub…in which path one chooses to pursue, the answer with God, or without. Maybe after a few thousand years of refinement there will be a satisfactory infusion :-) .

  • Andy B

    This article could have been much shorter, in essence ‘I’m scared, I need comfort, that’s why there must be a god. Intellectual cowardice.

    • http://www.arnizachariassen.com/ithinkibelieve Arni Zachariassen

      Perhaps. I don’t think so. I think Christianity has more going for it than that, but maybe I’m deluding myself. If I did, I wouldn’t know. Right?

      But here’s my question: Maybe there’s something genuinely to fear about atheism of the scientifically materialist kind? I think the utter erosion of human subjectivity, free will, moral responsibility, the virtues, love and relationship is very dangerous. I think it’s something worth being afraid of. It’s only because those atheists who subscribe to scientific materialism manage to live with the high degree of cognitive dissonance that is produced by pretending their philosophy isn’t true that I’m not in all out panic mode.

      • http://twitter.com/alangnixon Alan Nixon

        “the utter erosion of human subjectivity, free will, moral responsibility, the virtues, love and relationship is very dangerous.”

        Why would you think Atheism could erode these things? These are things we have gained via evolution (as ultra-social animals) and they cannot be taken away by any ideology or thought pattern in the long term. Humans are born to be social and mostly good. Morals, love and relationships are a part of the genetic package (of course there are problems and exceptions, but this is imperfect evolution, not perfect creation. Much harder to explain on God, ie the “problem” of evil).

        Why would people subscribing to Scientific Materialism exhibit cognitive dissonance? Science and evidence support our view of the world! lol.

        • zach walden

          Alan….define what you mean by “we”. in your 2nd paragraph. Do you have evidence that humans are anything more than complicated chemical reactions? If not, then explain how meaning is derived from complicated chemical reactions.

          • schinizel

            …”Do you have evidence that humans are anything more than complicated chemical reactions? If not, then explain how meaning is derived from complicated chemical reactions.”…

            Perhaps the same way we derive meaning from complicated astrological reactions, as in our birthdays? Or, from complicated reactions of various material objects, like when an ellipse-shaped leather ball is moved back and forth in a large field of grass by 2 distinct groups of people.

            …Just a thought.

  • http://twitter.com/alangnixon Alan Nixon

    “a kind of atheist dark night of the soul, as he gradually realises the utter bleakness of the new godless universe in which he resides. Vividly describing just how the “universal acid” of atheism strips away everything meaningful and valuable about life”

    As an Atheist I’m willing to accept that my lack of Gods changes my viewpoint (in fact I’m glad it does). However, my life is far from meaningless or lacking in value. Those feelings seem to be reached more frequently by those who are giving up God(s), not by those who never had them. Jeff Cook clearly did not understand how to gain meaning and value from a Godless universe, but I assure you that many of us do and that we are very happy being Godless.

    • http://www.arnizachariassen.com/ithinkibelieve Arni Zachariassen

      Oh, I’m not suggesting that your experience of your life is full of feelings of meaninglessness or unhappiness. I’m happy to agree with you there. What I’m saying is that atheism, in so far as it leads to a scientifically materialist or naturalist philosophy (which it doesn’t have to, but often does and, according to some, necessarily does), has no way of grounding those feelings of meaning, significance and happiness as ultimately real and actually meaningful. When you feel like your life matters, according to the kind of atheism Jeff Cook and I argue against, that’s just ultimately illusory brain activity. Your life doesn’t matter. Give it a couple of years and it’ll end. A couple of decades after your death, a little bit longer if do something really cool, the last person ever in the history of the universe will speak your name. You will be forgotten and so will whatever meagre contribution to human society you might have had to offer. If that makes you feel a bit sad, you shouldn’t worry. There’s no you in reality. Your sense of self is just a neurological epiphenomenon. And so, coming back to your feelings of meaning and happiness, those are just flutterings of brain activity, which mean absolutely nothing at all. And so on. Everything is utterly useless and completely devoid of meaning and significance according to this view of the world.

      That’s what I mean when I say that atheism erodes “human subjectivity, free will, moral responsibility, the virtues, love and relationship”. And that’s what I mean about cognitive dissonance. If you go about thinking life is meaningful, I submit that you do so in spite of your atheism. Only God, as the creator and redeemer of the universe can ground real meaning and significance.

      That’s how I see it at least. Do I make any sense? :)

  • Aimee

    An atheist’s life is given meaning by the pursuit of knowledge, and the awe when you understand something about the universe that you didn’t understand before is powerful. Life is also given meaning by caring about what happens to other human beings. If the pastor quoted found life to be meaningless without God, it only means that he is uncaring about human beings, because none of their needs or feelings motivated him at all. This is not a loving person. It may even be a form of narcissism — the only being good enough for me to care about is uber-powerful and runs the universe. Lesser beings are insignificant to me and don’t arouse my interest or compassion. A third option is that the description of that experience matches up extremely well with the symptoms of major depression. He just got depressed for a while and put a religious spin on the experience.